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Intervals · Lesson 1

Interval Size and Quality

about 15 min

What this lesson is for

Every interval name has two parts. The number comes from counting letters, the quality from counting half steps. Once that two-stage system is clear, it becomes obvious why an augmented 4th and a diminished 5th are different intervals despite both spanning six half steps.

  • Find the number of an interval by counting inclusively
  • Explain why 1, 4, 5, and 8 use perfect while 2, 3, 6, and 7 use major and minor
  • Explain why two intervals with the same half-step count can still be different intervals
  • Name the interval from the tonic to each degree of a major scale
In this lesson
  1. An interval name has two parts
  2. Numbers are counted inclusively
  3. Quality comes from half steps, in two families
  4. Same half steps, different interval
  5. A working procedure

From here on the subject is relationships between notes. The first thing to measure is the distance between two of them: the interval.

Nearly everything else rests on this. A scale is a sequence of intervals; a chord is a stack of them; a chord progression is a chain of relationships between those stacks. Vagueness here propagates into everything downstream, so this lesson takes its time.

An interval name has two parts

Interval names always come in two words — “major 3rd,” “perfect 5th,” “augmented 4th”:

  • the quality (major, minor, perfect, augmented, diminished)
  • the number (unison, 2nd, 3rd, and so on)

And the two are determined by different things.

PartDetermined by
Numbercounting the letters in the note names
Qualitycounting half steps

That two-stage structure is the whole idea. Neither the number alone nor the half-step count alone identifies an interval. You need both.

Numbers are counted inclusively

There is exactly one trap in counting interval numbers: you include both endpoints.

From C to E, count C, D, E — that is a 3rd, not a 2nd. It is not “how many steps did I move.” A consequence of counting this way is that a note against itself is a unison, numbered 1 rather than 0.

unison2nd3rd4th5th6th7thoctave
Fig. 1: unison through octave above C. On the staff, the number is 'how many positions apart, plus one'.

The crucial point is that the number ignores accidentals entirely. C to E, C to Eb, and C to E# are all thirds, because the letters run C, D, E in every case. Accidentals change the quality; they never change the number.

This is where the previous unit’s principle pays off. Write E# as F and C to E# (a 3rd) turns into C to F (a 4th) — the number itself changes. Spelling is not cosmetic; it is what the measurement is made of.

Check

What number is the interval from D up to A?

Quality comes from half steps, in two families

With the number settled, the quality is next. Here an awkward fact appears: different numbers use different vocabulary.

Unisons, 4ths, 5ths, and octaves take perfect as their reference. 2nds, 3rds, 6ths, and 7ths take major as theirs.

Why two families? Build all these intervals inside a major scale and the reason surfaces. Taking C as the lower note in C major:

Upper noteNumberHalf stepsQuality
C10perfect unison
D22major 2nd
E34major 3rd
F45perfect 4th
G57perfect 5th
A69major 6th
B711major 7th
C812perfect octave

The 1st, 4th, 5th, and 8th have a special property: they keep their quality when you flip the two notes, which is exactly what the next lesson examines. That symmetry is what “perfect” is naming.

Departures from the reference

Once the reference is fixed, the remaining qualities are just distances from it.

Perfect family (1, 4, 5, 8)
  • at the reference → perfect
  • a half step wider → augmented
  • a half step narrower → diminished
Major/minor family (2, 3, 6, 7)
  • at the reference → major
  • a half step narrower → minor
  • another half step narrower → diminished
  • a half step wider → augmented

Only the second family has the three-stage major-minor-diminished chain. The perfect family has no “minor” at all. There is no such interval as a minor 5th; the correct name for that sound is a diminished 5th.

minor 3rdmajor 3rdperfect 5thdiminished 5thaugmented 5th
Fig. 2: the same number takes different qualities as accidentals change — thirds go major/minor, fifths go perfect/augmented/diminished.

One note apart: major and minor thirds

Check: The lower note is C in both. The only difference is whether the upper note is E or Eb — a single half step. That half step is the entire difference between a major and a minor chord, and it carries a startling share of the emotional weight in Western music.

four half steps, bright

Check

What is the interval from C up to A♭?

Same half steps, different interval

This is the single most important idea in the lesson. Equal half-step counts do not make equal intervals if the numbers differ.

The classic pair spans six half steps each.

  • F up to B: F, G, A, B is a 4th. One half step wider than a perfect 4th (five) → augmented 4th
  • B up to F: B, C, D, E, F is a 5th. One half step narrower than a perfect 5th (seven) → diminished 5th
augmented 4thdiminished 5th
Fig. 3: six half steps in both cases, but the numbers are 4 and 5, so they are different intervals.

On a keyboard the distance is identical and the sound is indistinguishable. Theory still separates them, and the reason is that they resolve in opposite directions.

An augmented interval wants to keep expanding: the lower note moves down, the upper note moves up. A diminished interval wants to contract inward. Identical sound, opposite tendency — and the spelling is what records which one you meant.

This six-half-step interval is the tritone, literally three whole tones. It has a special standing in Western harmony as the source of tension in the dominant seventh chord, and it returns repeatedly in the units ahead.

Tension and resolution in the tritone

Check: The first is the augmented 4th F–B on its own — notice how strongly it wants to go somewhere. The second shows it opening outward to E–C. The third is the diminished 5th B–F, and the fourth closes it inward to C–E. Same six half steps, opposite directions of travel.

tension

A working procedure

Until it becomes automatic, run every interval through the same two mechanical steps.

  1. Count letters to get the number, ignoring accidentals completely
  2. Count half steps and compare against the reference for that number

The reference sizes are worth having available.

NumberReferenceHalf steps
1perfect0
2major2
3major4
4perfect5
5perfect7
6major9
7major11
8perfect12

Since these references are just the intervals of a major scale, knowing the major scale from its tonic makes the table unnecessary. Most people never memorize it; they count up the scale in their head instead, which is faster and harder to forget.

Practice against the interval calculator Pick two notes and it reports the number, quality, half-step count, and consonance. The way to get value out of it is to commit to an answer out loud first, then check Interval Calculator → Start putting intervals in your ear Once the reasoning is in place, the ear is next. Starting with just perfect 5ths, major 3rds, and minor 3rds keeps the early going manageable Ear Training →

The next lesson looks at what happens when you turn an interval upside down. That is where the asymmetry between the perfect and major/minor families finally explains itself.

Exercises

Every answer here is cross-checked against the theory engine. Work them out before you grade.

  1. 1

    What is the interval from C up to E?

  2. 2

    What is the interval from F up to B?

  3. 3

    What is the interval from B up to F?

  4. 4

    Name the interval from Eb up to Gb using the abbreviated form (like M3, P5, or m6).

  5. 5

    The 1st, 4th, 5th, and 8th do not use major or minor. What do they use instead?

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Before you move on

Check that you can explain each point above in your own words.

Inverted and Compound Intervals